The question is are carnal Christians saved or not?  The
problem here is that I can not answer because the Lord is
always extending his grace.  Each person is a separate case.

From "Believe" [believe.txt], we understand the word, believe, 
is from the Greek word, pisteou.  Pisteou also means commit 
and trust.

In "Believe" [believe.txt], we consider a case where a person 
radically commit to Jesus for a few years, and then, becomes 
a pew warmer and uncommitted for twenty years (long time).  
This person satisfies the definition of pisteou during the 
first few years.  At the end this person does NOT satisfies
the definition of pisteou.  In other words, this person was 
saved, and then, not saved.  The use of pisteou shows that 
it is possible for someone to lose salvation.  

The question is when did this person loses salvation?  The
Holy Spirit will bring forth convictions when a person is
doing something wrong (e.g., being uncommitted).  The Lord
is forbearing and desires repentance.  When a person 
persistantly rejects these convictions, the Holy Spirit
grieves and that person loses salvation.  The problem is
how long this takes?  By twenty years, a long time, one
would think the Holy Spirit has gone thru this process.  
During the first few years of uncommitment, I do not know.  
Each person is unique.  The Lord is convicting and sharing 
His grace.  All I can say, that person is a hot seat with 
God and is in danger of losing (or already did lose) 
salvation.

It is "Once Saved" + "Commitment to Jesus" = "Always 
Saved" where "Commitment to Jesus" is 

- having an active faith,
- living a life of repentance, and
- obeying the Lord.

It is better to make an ongoing "Commitment to Jesus" and 
ensure salvation.  It is where you are RIGHT NOW, not what
you did in the past.

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