Was Jesus was born in a Cave?
There are at least eight non-canonical books that mentioned Jesus was born in a cave. Be careful
when you read non-canonical books. They are fallible books. In fact, there are some contradictions.
For example, The Book of Jubilee contradicts The Book of Jasher concerning the death of Esau. The
manuscript about the death of Joseph the Carpenter contradicts The Aquarium Gospel concerning the
location of Jesus.
Quotes from non-canonical books
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The First Gospel of The Infancy of Jesus Christ
CHAPTER 1
The following accounts we found in the book of Joseph the high-priest, called by some Caiaphas: 2 He
relates, that Jesus spake even when he was in the cradle, and said to his mother: 3 Mary, I am Jesus
the Son of God, that word which thou didst bring forth according to the declaration of the angel
Gabriel to thee, and my father hath sent me for the salvation of the world. 4 In the three hundred
and ninth year of the era of Alexander, Augustus published a decree that all persons should go to be
taxed in their own country. 5 Joseph therefore arose, and with Mary his spouse he went to Jerusalem,
and then came to Bethlehem, that he and his family might be taxed in the city of his fathers. 6 And
when they came by the cave, Mary confessed to Joseph that her time of bringing forth was come, and
she could not go on to the city, and said, Let us go into this cave. 7 At that time the sun was very
near going down. 8 But Joseph hastened away, that he might fetch her a mid-wife; and when he saw an
old Hebrew woman who was of Jerusalem, he said to her, Pray come hither, good woman, and go into
that cave, and you will there see a woman just ready to bring forth. 9 It was after sunset, when the
old woman and Joseph with her reached the cave, and they both went into it. 10 And behold, it was
all filled with lights, greater than the light of lamps and candles, an, greater than the light of
the sun itself. 11 The infant was then wrapped up in swaddling clothes, an sucking the breasts of
his mother St. Mary. 12 When they both saw this light, they were surprised; the old woman asked St.
Mary, Art thou the mother of this child 13 St. Mary replied, She was. 14 On which the old woman
said, Thou art very different from all other women. 15 St. Mary answered, As there is not any child
like to my son, so neither is there any woman like to his mother. 16 The old woman answered and
said, O my Lady, I am come hither that I may obtain an everlasting reward. 17 Then our Lady, St.
Mary said to her, Lay thine hand upon the infant; which, when she had done, she became whole 18 And
as she was going forth, she said, From henceforth, all the days of my life, I will attend upon and
be a servant of this infant. 19 After this, when the shepherds came, and had made a fire and they
were exceedingly rejoicing, the heavenly host appeared to them, praising and adoring the supreme
God. 20 And as the shepherds we engaged in the same employment, the cave at that time seemed like a
glorious temple, because both the tongues of angels and men united to adore and magnify God, on
account of the birth of the Lord Christ. 21 But when the old Hebrew woman saw all these evident
miracles, she gave praises to God, and said, I thank thee, O God, thou God of Israel, for that mine
eyes have seen the birth of the Saviour of the world.
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Infancy Gospel of James
18. And he found a cave there, and led her into it; and leaving his two sons beside her, he went
out to seek a widwife in the district of Bethlehem. And I Joseph was walking, and was not walking;
and I looked up into the sky, and saw the sky astonished; and I looked up to the pole of the
heavens, and saw it standing, and the birds of the air keeping still. And I looked down upon the
earth, and saw a trough lying, and work-people reclining: and their hands were in the trough. And
those that were eating did not eat, and those that were rising did not carry it up, and those that
were conveying anything to their mouths did not convey it; but the faces of all were looking
upwards. And I saw the sheep walking, and the sheep stood still; and the shepherd raised his hand to
strike them, and his hand remained up. And I looked upon the current of the river, and I saw the
mouths of the kids resting on the water and not drinking, and all things in a moment were driven
from their course.
19. And I saw a woman coming down from the hill-country, and she said to me: O man, whither art
thou going? And I said: I am seeking an Hebrew midwife. And she answered and said unto me: Art thou
of Israel? And I said to her: Yes. And she said: And who is it that is bringing forth in the cave?
And I said: A woman betrothed to me. And she said to me: Is she not thy wife? And I said to her: It
is Mary that was reared in the temple of the Lord, and I obtained her by lot as my wife. And yet
she is not my wife, but has conceived of the Holy Spirit. And the widwife said to him: Is this
true? And Joseph said to her: Come and see. And the midwife went away with him. And they stood in
the place of the cave, and behold a luminous cloud overshadowed the cave. And the midwife said: My
soul has been magnified this day, because mine eyes have seen strange things -- because salvation
has been brought forth to Israel. And immediately the cloud disappeared out of the cave, and a
great light shone in the cave, so that the eyes could not bear it. And in a little that light
gradually decreased, until the infant appeared, and went and took the breast from His mother Mary.
And the midwife cried out, and said: This is a great day to me, because I have seen this strange
sight. And the midwife went forth out of the cave, and Salome met her. And she said to her:
Salome, Salome, I have a strange sight to relate to thee: a virgin has brought forth -- a thing
which her nature admits not of. Then said Salome: As the Lord my God liveth, unless I thrust in my
finger, and search the parts, I will not believe that a virgin has brought forth.
20. And the midwife went in, and said to Mary: Show thyself; for no small controversy has arisen
about thee. And Salome put in her finger, and cried out, and said: Woe is me for mine iniquity and
mine unbelief, because I have tempted the living God; and, behold, my hand is dropping off as if
burned with fire. And she bent her knees before the Lord, saying: O God of my fathers, remember
that I am the seed of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob; do not make a show of me to the sons of
Israel, but restore me to the poor; for Thou knowest, O Lord, that in Thy name I have performed my
services, and that I have received my reward at Thy hand. And, behold, an angel of the Lord stood
by her, saying to her: Salome, Salome, the Lord hath heard thee. Put thy hand to the infant, and
carry it, and thou wilt have safety and joy. And Salome went and carried it, saying: I will
worship Him, because a great King has been born to Israel. And, behold, Salome was immediately
cured, and she went forth out of the cave justified. And behold a voice saying: Salome, Salome,
tell not the strange things thou hast seen, until the child has come into Jerusalem.
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The Book of the Bee: CHAPTER XXXVI: OF THE BIRTH OF OUR LORD IN THE FLESH.
ONE year before the annunciation of our Lord, the emperor of the Romans sent to the land of
Palestine Cyrinus the governor, to write down every one for the poll-tax, for the Jews were subject
to the empire of the Romans; and every man was written down in his city. And Joseph the carpenter
also went up that he might be written down in his city; and by reason of his exceeding great
watchfulness for the blessed (Mary), he took her with him upon an ass. When they had gone about
three miles, Joseph looked at her and saw that her hand was laid upon her belly, and that her face
was contracted with pain; and he thought that she was troubled by the beast, and asked her about her
trouble and pain. She said to him, 'Hasten and prepare a place for me to alight, for the pains of
childbirth have taken hold upon me.' When he had lifted her down from the animal, he went to fetch a
midwife, and found a Hebrew woman whose name was Salome1. The heretics say that she was called
Hadyôk, but they err from the truth. When Joseph came to the cave, he found it full of brilliant
light, and the child wrapped in swaddling clothes and rags, and laid in a crib. And there were
shepherds there keeping watch over their flocks, and behold the angel of God came to them, and the
glory of the Lord shone upon them; and they feared with an exceeding great fear. The angel said to
them, 'Fear not, for behold, I announce to you a great joy which shall be to all the world; for
there is born to you this day a Redeemer, who is the Lord Jesus, in the city of David: and this
shall be the sign unto you; ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, and laid in a
crib.' And suddenly with the angel there appeared many hosts of heaven, praising God and saying,
'Glory to God in the heights, and on earth peace and tranquillity and good hope to men.' And the
shepherds went and entered the cave, and they saw as the angel had said to them. The names of the
shepherds were these: Asher, Zebulon, Justus, Nicodemus, Joseph, Barshabba, and Jose; seven in
number.
Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary: X. THE CENSUS AND THE JOURNEY OF THE HOLY FAMILY
-> 8. DESCRIPTION OF THE CAVE OF THE NATIVITY AND ITS SURROUNDINGS.
... The Blessed Virgin was in the eastern part of this cave [Figure 12, part 8], exactly opposite
the entrance, when she gave birth to the Light of the World. ...
The Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Saviour
2. In the three hundred and ninth year of the era of Alexander, Augustus put forth an edict,
that every man should be enrolled in his native place. Joseph therefore arose, and taking Mary
his spouse, went away to1779 Jerusalem, and came to Bethlehem, to be enrolled along with his
family in his native city. And having come to a cave, Mary told Joseph that the time of the
birth was at hand, and that she could not go into the city; but, said she, let us go into this
cave. This took place at sunset. And Joseph went out in haste to go for a woman to be near her.
When, therefore, he was busy about that, he saw an Hebrew old woman belonging to Jerusalem, and
said: Come hither, my good woman, and go into this cave, in which there is a woman near her time.
3. Wherefore, after sunset, the old woman, and Joseph with her, came to the cave, and they both
went in. And, behold, it was filled with lights more beautiful than the gleaming of lamps and
candles,1780 and more splendid than the light of the sun. The child, enwrapped in swaddling
clothes, was sucking the breast of the Lady Mary His mother, being placed in a stall. And when
both were wondering at this light, the old woman asks the Lady Mary: Art thou the mother of this
Child? And when the Lady Mary gave her assent, she says: Thou art not at all like the daughters
of Eve. The Lady Mary said: As my son has no equal among children, so his mother has no equal
among women. The old woman replied: My mistress, I came to get payment; I have been for a long
time affected with palsy. Our mistress the Lady Mary said to her: Place thy hands upon the
child. And the old woman did so, and was immediately cured. Then she went forth, saying:
Henceforth I will be the attendant and servant of this child all the days of my life. 4. Then
came shepherds; and when they had lighted a fire, and were rejoicing greatly, there appeared to
them the hosts of heaven praising and celebrating God Most High. And while the shepherds were
doing the same, the cave was at that time made like a temple of the upper world, since both
heavenly and earthly voices glorified and magnified God on account of the birth of the Lord
Christ. And when that old Hebrew woman saw the manifestation of those miracles, she thanked God,
saying: I give Thee thanks, O God, the God of Israel, because mine eyes have seen the birth of
the Saviour of the world.
The History of Joseph the Carpenter
7. Some time after that, there came forth an order from Augustus Cæsar the king, that all the
habitable world should be enrolled, each man in his own city. The old man therefore, righteous
Joseph, rose up and took the virgin Mary and came to Bethlehem, because the time of her bringing
forth was at hand. Joseph then inscribed his name in the list; for Joseph the son of David,
whose spouse Mary was, was of the tribe of Judah. And indeed Mary, my mother, brought me forth
in Bethlehem, in a cave near the tomb of Rachel the wife of the patriarch Jacob, the mother of
Joseph and Benjamin
The Twelve Patriarchs, Excerpts and Epistles, The Clementia, Apocrypha, Decretals, Memoirs of
Edessa and Syriac Documents, Remains of the First: Chapter 13
And when he had thus said, the angel ordered the beast to stand, for the time when she should
bring forth was at hand; and he commanded the blessed Mary to come down off the animal, and go
into a recess under a cavern, in which there never was light, but always darkness, because the
light of day could not reach it. And when the blessed Mary had gone into it, it began to shine
with as much brightness as if it were the sixth hour of the day. The light from God so shone in
the cave, that neither by day nor night was light wanting as long as the blessed Mary was there.
And there she brought forth a son, and the angels surrounded Him when He was being born. And as
soon as He was born, He stood upon His feet, and the angels adored Him, saying: Glory to God in
the highest, and on earth peace to men of good pleasure. Now, when the birth of the Lord was at
hand, Joseph had gone away to seek midwives. And when he had found them, he returned to the cave,
and found with Mary the infant which she had brought forth. And Joseph said to the blessed Mary:
I have brought thee two midwives—Zelomi and Salome; and they are standing outside before the
entrance to the cave, not daring to come in hither, because of the exceeding brightness. And when
the blessed Mary heard this, she smiled; and Joseph said to her: Do not smile; but prudently
allow them to visit thee, in case thou shouldst require them for thy cure. Then she ordered them
to enter. And when Zelomi had come in, Salome having stayed without, Zelomi said to Mary: Allow
me to touch thee. And when she had permitted her to make an examination, the midwife cried out
with a loud voice, and said: Lord, Lord Almighty, mercy on us! It has never been heard or
thought of, that any one should have her breasts full of milk, and that the birth of a son should
show his mother to be a virgin. But there has been no spilling of blood in his birth, no pain in
bringing him forth. A virgin has conceived, a virgin has brought forth, and a virgin she http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.vii.iv.html
remains. And hearing these words, Salome said: Allow me to handle thee, and prove whether
Zelomi have spoken the truth. And the blessed Mary allowed her to handle her. And when she had
withdrawn her hand from handling her, it dried up, and through excess of pain she began to weep
bitterly, and to be in great distress, crying out, and saying: O Lord God, Thou knowest that I
have always feared Thee, and that without recompense I have cared for all the poor; I have taken
nothing from the widow and the orphan, and the needy have I not sent empty away. And, behold, I
am made wretched because of mine unbelief, since without a cause I wished to try Thy virgin.
And while she was thus speaking, there stood by her a young man in shining garments, saying: Go
to the child, and adore Him, and touch Him with thy hand, and He will heal thee, because He is
the Saviour of the world, and of all that hope in Him. And she went to the child with haste,
and adored Him, and touched the fringe of the cloths in which He was wrapped, and instantly her
hand was cured. And going forth, she began to cry aloud, and to tell the wonderful things which
she had seen, and which she had suffered, and how she had been cured; so that many through her
statements believed.
And some shepherds also affirmed that they had seen angels singing a hymn at midnight, praising
and blessing the God of heaven, and saying: There has been born the Saviour of all, who is
Christ the Lord, in whom salvation shall be brought back to Israel.
Moreover, a great star, larger than any that had been seen since the beginning of the world,
shone over the cave from the evening till the morning. And the prophets who were in Jerusalem
said that this star pointed out the birth of Christ, who should restore the promise not only to
Israel, but to all nations.
The Protevangelium of James
18. And he found a cave1602 there, and led her into it; and leaving his two sons beside her,
he went out to seek a widwife in the district of Bethlehem.
And I Joseph was walking, and was not walking; and I looked up into the sky, and saw the sky
astonished; and I looked up to the pole of the heavens, and saw it standing, and the birds of
the air keeping still. And I looked down upon the earth, and saw a trough lying, and
work-people reclining: and their hands were in the trough. And those that were eating did not
eat, and those that were rising did not carry it up, and those that were conveying anything to
their mouths did not convey it; but the faces of all were looking upwards. And I saw the sheep
walking, and the sheep stood still; and the shepherd raised his hand to strike them, and his
hand remained up. And I looked upon the current of the river, and I saw the mouths of the kids
resting on the water and not drinking, and all things in a moment were driven from their course.
19. And I saw a woman coming down from the hill-country, and she said to me: O man, whither
art thou going? And I said: I am seeking an Hebrew midwife. And she answered and said unto
me: Art thou of Israel? And I said to her: Yes. And she said: And who is it that is
bringing forth in the cave? And I said: A woman betrothed to me. And she said to me: Is
she not thy wife? And I said to her: It is Mary that was reared in the temple of the Lord,
and I obtained her by lot as my wife. And yet she is not my wife, but has conceived of the
Holy Spirit.
And the widwife said to him: Is this true? And Joseph said to her: Come and see. And the
midwife went away with him. And they stood in the place of the cave, and behold a luminous
cloud overshadowed the cave. And the midwife said: My soul has been magnified this day,
because mine eyes have seen strange things—because salvation has been brought forth to Israel.
And immediately the cloud disappeared out of the cave, and a great light shone in the cave, so
that the eyes could not bear it. And in a little that light gradually decreased, until the
infant appeared, and went and took the breast from His mother Mary. And the midwife cried out,
and said: This is a great day to me, because I have seen this strange sight. And the midwife
went forth out of the cave, and Salome met her. And she said to her: Salome, Salome, I have a
strange sight to relate to thee: a virgin has brought forth—a thing which her nature admits
not of. Then said Salome: As the Lord my God liveth, unless I thrust in my finger, and search
the parts, I will not believe that a virgin has brought forth.
20. And the midwife went in, and said to Mary: Show thyself; for no small controversy has
arisen about thee. And Salome put in her finger, and cried out, and said: Woe is me for mine
iniquity and mine unbelief, because I have tempted the living God; and, behold, my hand is
dropping off as if burned with fire. And she bent her knees before the Lord, saying: O God of
my fathers, remember that I am the seed of Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob; do not make a show of
me to the sons of Israel, but restore me to the poor; for Thou knowest, O Lord, that in Thy
name I have performed my services, and that I have received my reward at Thy hand. And,
behold, an angel of the Lord stood by her, saying to her: Salome, Salome, the Lord hath heard
thee. Put thy hand to the infant, and carry it, and thou wilt have safety and joy. And Salome
went and carried it, saying: I will worship Him, because a great King has been born to Israel.
And, behold, Salome was immediately cured, and she went forth out of the cave justified. And
behold a voice saying: Salome, Salome, tell not the strange things thou hast seen, until the
child has come into Jerusalem.
What does the Bible says?
My first thought is to check what the bible says about the birth of Jesus. Does this contradict
the bible?
Matthew
Mt 2:1 OOYLT
And Jesus having been born in Beth-Lehem of Judea, in the days of Herod the king, lo, mages from
the east came to Jerusalem,
Matthew only mentioned that Jesus was born in Bethlehem
Mark
Mark does not mention the birth of Jesus.
Luke
Lk 2:4-7 OOYLT
and Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David,
that is called Bethlehem, because of his being of the house and family of David, to enroll himself
with Mary his betrothed wife, being with child. And it came to pass, in their being there, the days
were fulfilled for her bringing forth, and she brought forth her son -- the first-born, and wrapped
him up, and laid him down in the manger, because there was not for them a place in the
guest-chamber.
Lk 2:10-12 OOYLT
And the messenger said to them, `Fear not, for lo, I bring you good news of great joy, that shall be
to all the people -- because there was born to you to-day a Saviour -- who is Christ the Lord -- in
the city of David, and this is to you the sign: Ye shall find a babe wrapped up, lying in the
manger.'
These passages in Luke says Jesus was born in Bethlehem and that he was lying in a manger. It
never said Jesus was born in a manger. Furthermore, the English word, manger, is a translation of
the Greek word, phatné. Phatné (Strong's 5336) means feeding trough which could mean cave as well
as manger.
John
John does not mentioned the birth of Jesus.
Some Articles
was jesus born in a cave
https://bibleconclusions.com/was-jesus-born-in-a-cave/
The Real Manger Where Jesus Was Born
https://www.christianwebsite.com/the-real-manger-where-jesus-was-born/
Where Was Jesus Born? (Stable, Cave, Tree, or Home)
https://www.thecollector.com/where-was-jesus-born/
Was Jesus Born in a Cave?
https://www.christianity.com/jesus/birth-of-jesus/bethlehem/was-jesus-born-in-a-cave.html
Did Mary and Joseph Really Stay in a Cave?
https://www.christianity.com/wiki/holidays/did-mary-and-joseph-really-stay-in-a-cave.html
5336. phatné (Bible Hub)
https://biblehub.com/greek/5336.htm
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In first-century Judea a φάτνη (manger or feeding trough) was most often a rough-hewn stone box
or a clay-lined depression built into the lower level of a home or cave-stable where animals were
kept at night. Positioned at animal height, it was designed for fodder, not for human use. Its
commonness makes every mention immediately evocative of daily peasant life
Controversy
There are people whom think cave is a possibility, but think not. I.e.,
Where Was Jesus Born: A Barn, Cave, or House
https://www.youthpastortheologian.com/blog/where-was-jesus-born-a-barn-cave-or-house
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The Traditional View: A Cave
The Early Church Fathers wrote about Jesus being born in a cave. Justin Martyr (150 A.D.), Origen
(250 A.D.), Jerome (325 A.D.) each believed this was the case. In 335 A.D, Emperor Constantine
approved the cave that was the traditional site of Jesus’ birth to be turned into a holy site,
known as the “Church of the Nativity.”
The people of Bethlehem were known to keep their flocks in an adjoining cave to their homes. There
is archaeological evidence for animals being housed in caves. And yet, it is important to remember
that despite the Church of the Nativity being commissioned as a holy site as early as 325 A.D., the
Bible does not make definitive reference to a cave, only to a manger. It is entirely possible that
Origen and Jerome simply followed Justin Martyr’s early-but-wrong theory.
My thoughts:
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From prophetic angle, cave is the lowest disgusting place for King, Savior, and Lord Jesus to be
born.
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It is unlikely that 8 early writings are wrong. Again be care with non-canonical books. If each
book has a 50% of being wrong, then possibility that all (of them) are wrong is .5**8 or less than .4 %.
Raymond
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